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		<title>By: Solid Namer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solid Namer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always included the "make offer" in the emails I have sent to end users, but everytime I get a reply it is always with a "how much do you want for it" answer. I think you might be right about including the price in the first mail would be a good idea. I will try that, next time I promote a domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always included the &#8220;make offer&#8221; in the emails I have sent to end users, but everytime I get a reply it is always with a &#8220;how much do you want for it&#8221; answer. I think you might be right about including the price in the first mail would be a good idea. I will try that, next time I promote a domain.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen - I think i will be investing in a Mac this christmas.
Most people i know are switching over to them, but i guess i've just been stuck in my old PC ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen - I think i will be investing in a Mac this christmas.<br />
Most people i know are switching over to them, but i guess i&#8217;ve just been stuck in my old PC ways.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I have no PC's, but five Macs. All are running continually and online with no problems. I can't tell you how much time and money (from repair labor) I've saved by switching to Mac. 

My wife, who is a teacher dependent on old fashioned PC websites and programs, switched to a MacBook Pro 15 inch. I bought it for her, and she fought hard to avoid using it. Once she got the hang of the incredible Mac OS, she now swears by it. It took about a month for her to convert. The HP laptop she was using before now sits in the closet. Anyone want a nice PC laptop for $100?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I have no PC&#8217;s, but five Macs. All are running continually and online with no problems. I can&#8217;t tell you how much time and money (from repair labor) I&#8217;ve saved by switching to Mac. </p>
<p>My wife, who is a teacher dependent on old fashioned PC websites and programs, switched to a MacBook Pro 15 inch. I bought it for her, and she fought hard to avoid using it. Once she got the hang of the incredible Mac OS, she now swears by it. It took about a month for her to convert. The HP laptop she was using before now sits in the closet. Anyone want a nice PC laptop for $100?</p>
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		<title>By: stephen douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick note for end user sellers: COLD CALL AND GET THE MARKETING DIRECTOR OR THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF ONLINE ADVERTISING FIRST.  

Don't bother writing an email. Get the name and phone number of the person in charge of handling the company's website.  

Analyze the size of the company, and how much of a budget they may have, and adjust your pricing accordingly. You'd be surprised at how many $500 sales you can make for longtailed domains by just offering them at petty cash prices.

For Leonard: DUDE!!!!  Good god man... you got a virus from visiting a website? Are you still using a PC? I thought all smart domainers and internet users have switched to Macs. This NEVER happens to a Mac. (And you can run PC programs on the new Macs). I don't want to start a war here, but Mac's are rarely infected, if ever, and they run PC programs. Spend the extra few hundred bucks and get one. 

I haven't been hindered by a virus, bug, trojan, or whatever for almost five years, using a Mac. However, when I'm on my PC startup side, I try to be offline. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick note for end user sellers: COLD CALL AND GET THE MARKETING DIRECTOR OR THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF ONLINE ADVERTISING FIRST.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother writing an email. Get the name and phone number of the person in charge of handling the company&#8217;s website.  </p>
<p>Analyze the size of the company, and how much of a budget they may have, and adjust your pricing accordingly. You&#8217;d be surprised at how many $500 sales you can make for longtailed domains by just offering them at petty cash prices.</p>
<p>For Leonard: DUDE!!!!  Good god man&#8230; you got a virus from visiting a website? Are you still using a PC? I thought all smart domainers and internet users have switched to Macs. This NEVER happens to a Mac. (And you can run PC programs on the new Macs). I don&#8217;t want to start a war here, but Mac&#8217;s are rarely infected, if ever, and they run PC programs. Spend the extra few hundred bucks and get one. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been hindered by a virus, bug, trojan, or whatever for almost five years, using a Mac. However, when I&#8217;m on my PC startup side, I try to be offline. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments guys.
I'm going to start marketing my names quite heavily after Christmas so will be trying out a  few different techniques.

Ricky - i don't agree with what you said about the companies contacting you. sure that is how a lot of the domain sales happen, but i know a few domainers (very successful) who go out ther , build the relationshps and achieve incredible sales. The point is you're going to have to kiss a lot of frogs.

Leonard - sorry to hear about the virus. I revently had my computer wiped clean and Norton taken off. i now use Avira which in my opinion is much better.

Joshua - thanks for the post and i'm glad to hear of the success you've had. When calling companies i usually speak with marketing and sales and quite often the head of IT (who buy the way are the biggest lowballers on the planet.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments guys.<br />
I&#8217;m going to start marketing my names quite heavily after Christmas so will be trying out a  few different techniques.</p>
<p>Ricky - i don&#8217;t agree with what you said about the companies contacting you. sure that is how a lot of the domain sales happen, but i know a few domainers (very successful) who go out ther , build the relationshps and achieve incredible sales. The point is you&#8217;re going to have to kiss a lot of frogs.</p>
<p>Leonard - sorry to hear about the virus. I revently had my computer wiped clean and Norton taken off. i now use Avira which in my opinion is much better.</p>
<p>Joshua - thanks for the post and i&#8217;m glad to hear of the success you&#8217;ve had. When calling companies i usually speak with marketing and sales and quite often the head of IT (who buy the way are the biggest lowballers on the planet.)</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great post.  Thanks for the info.  My question is where does one get the end-users email address?
I'm also wonderingif "snail mail" is worth doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post.  Thanks for the info.  My question is where does one get the end-users email address?<br />
I&#8217;m also wonderingif &#8220;snail mail&#8221; is worth doing.</p>
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		<title>By: JoshuaPz</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoshuaPz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 11:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would even go as far to say NEVER to register or purchase a domain unless either of the following are true:

  (a) You have a personal stake in the domain, OR
  (b) You can think of at least four end-users who, if the domain were pitched to properly (using the advice in your blog post), would purchase the domain with 15% probability or higher.

Scan drop lists.  Pick out &#38; catch .com domains that either fall under a familiar niche or have inferior registered versions (.net, hyphenated versions, etc.) with active sites attached.  Be conservative in choosing your prospects.  Craft an e-mail pitch such as the one I contributed to NP thread you mentioned.  Make sure to include the recipient's name and the business's niche somewhere in your messages so as to convey "I've carefully examined your website and have determined this domain will be a perfect fit for your group based on my observations."  Spray them from a University or work e-mail address Mon-Thu between 8am and 10am EST, which is the send time range that will maximize your chance of receiving a response.

You are correct that the real money in domaining lies in end-users.  I have generated $20K in revenue (on a tight budget) from this practice over the past several months, 90% of it from a combined 70 end-user sales.  Only two of those sales clocked in at $1K or higher, and none surpassed $1400.  My domain sales average $250 each, but my average ROI across all sales is 20x.  Check out my latest post in the "Selling to End Users" NP thread for a general guide on setting asking prices when selling to small groups.

My one curiosity still is, when calling in, who should I ask to speak with regarding my domain?  I typically request the director of sales or business development, but I'd love hear success stories from domainers who have pitched to other business staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would even go as far to say NEVER to register or purchase a domain unless either of the following are true:</p>
<p>  (a) You have a personal stake in the domain, OR<br />
  (b) You can think of at least four end-users who, if the domain were pitched to properly (using the advice in your blog post), would purchase the domain with 15% probability or higher.</p>
<p>Scan drop lists.  Pick out &amp; catch .com domains that either fall under a familiar niche or have inferior registered versions (.net, hyphenated versions, etc.) with active sites attached.  Be conservative in choosing your prospects.  Craft an e-mail pitch such as the one I contributed to NP thread you mentioned.  Make sure to include the recipient&#8217;s name and the business&#8217;s niche somewhere in your messages so as to convey &#8220;I&#8217;ve carefully examined your website and have determined this domain will be a perfect fit for your group based on my observations.&#8221;  Spray them from a University or work e-mail address Mon-Thu between 8am and 10am EST, which is the send time range that will maximize your chance of receiving a response.</p>
<p>You are correct that the real money in domaining lies in end-users.  I have generated $20K in revenue (on a tight budget) from this practice over the past several months, 90% of it from a combined 70 end-user sales.  Only two of those sales clocked in at $1K or higher, and none surpassed $1400.  My domain sales average $250 each, but my average ROI across all sales is 20x.  Check out my latest post in the &#8220;Selling to End Users&#8221; NP thread for a general guide on setting asking prices when selling to small groups.</p>
<p>My one curiosity still is, when calling in, who should I ask to speak with regarding my domain?  I typically request the director of sales or business development, but I&#8217;d love hear success stories from domainers who have pitched to other business staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Parks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Parks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lot of good points listed here. The end-user game is a delicate one. If properly approached and presented, selling a valuable domain name to the natural end-user/end-company should be a smooth, enjoyable process. End-users buy domains because they fall in love with them. Companies buy domains because they can make money with them. Making love and making money are really the two things that make the world go around. Trouble is, not all domains are lovable or profitable ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lot of good points listed here. The end-user game is a delicate one. If properly approached and presented, selling a valuable domain name to the natural end-user/end-company should be a smooth, enjoyable process. End-users buy domains because they fall in love with them. Companies buy domains because they can make money with them. Making love and making money are really the two things that make the world go around. Trouble is, not all domains are lovable or profitable <img src='http://www.namecake.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Helder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's an excellent post, you've pointed very important details for one to have success, i still haven't sold to the end users i've contacted, but i got answers from most of them, so i guess i'm doing things correctly, at least in the way i adress them. I'll have to improve the way i describe the domains, and the why they should buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an excellent post, you&#8217;ve pointed very important details for one to have success, i still haven&#8217;t sold to the end users i&#8217;ve contacted, but i got answers from most of them, so i guess i&#8217;m doing things correctly, at least in the way i adress them. I&#8217;ll have to improve the way i describe the domains, and the why they should buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: RegFeeNames.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>RegFeeNames.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone to sell in the domain business to suceed you either need a great broker or know what to do and I think you have explained that very well!

Regards,

Robbie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone to sell in the domain business to suceed you either need a great broker or know what to do and I think you have explained that very well!</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Robbie</p>
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